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Post by doctork on Mar 11, 2021 1:41:53 GMT -5
The interview with Oprah has swept everyone else off the front page. I admit, I watched. I was curious. My personal conclusion is I don't care how much I might love the guy, I would not marry into The British Royal Family. The BRF does not want Americans to join The Firm. Y'all know I was never good at history, but we have heard this story before when the king quit the scene to marry the divorced American woman. Then I found this link to an article/commentary in The Irish Times that I thought was hilarious. It's not comfortable being Irish and living close to the BRF Harry and Meghan: The union of two great houses, the Windsors and the Celebrities, is complete:
After Harry and Meghan, the monarchy looks archaic and racist. Well duh.
Mon, Mar 8, 2021, 23:00 Patrick Freyne
Prince Harry and his wife Meghan Markle have hit out at the British monarchy and members of the royal family during their candid Oprah Winfrey interview. Having a monarchy next door is a little like having a neighbour who’s really into clowns and has daubed their house with clown murals, displays clown dolls in each window and has an insatiable desire to hear about and discuss clown-related news stories. More specifically, for the Irish, it’s like having a neighbour who’s really into clowns and, also, your grandfather was murdered by a clown.
Beyond this, it’s the stuff of children’s stories. Having a queen as head of state is like having a pirate or a mermaid or Ewok as head of state. What’s the logic? Bees have queens, but the queen bee lays all of the eggs in the hive. The queen of the Britons has laid just four British eggs, and one of those is the sweatless creep Prince Andrew, so it’s hardly deserving of applause.
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Post by BoatBabe on Mar 11, 2021 10:00:02 GMT -5
Ha! Yes, so the clowns start an investigation into the black-in-law's alleged mean treatment of the wait staff, instead of the sweatless Prince Andrew's pedophile associates and illegal behavior.
HONK! HONK!
And baby Archie turned out to be a ginger.
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Post by joew on Mar 17, 2021 20:37:18 GMT -5
I blame Harry for the mess. He should have known better than to marry Meghan before she was ready to be a working duchesss. She went into it with false expectations. Whose fault was that? Who should have made sure she knew what she was in for? Hint: Harry. He had seen the disaster that resulted from his mother's inability to deal with the pressure. His brother, Prince William, reportedly cautioned him to go slow. But no. It was full steam ahead.
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Post by doctork on Mar 18, 2021 12:52:30 GMT -5
I think there is plenty of blame to go all around. Harry "should have known" but maybe he was like a fish that doesn't realize it needs to be in water. It's been around him his whole life and he doesn't know the outside, non-water world. He'd watched what happened to his mother, and Diana was British nobility (is that the right word?) but she was only 19, too young to realize. Prince Charles was a coward and a cad - not brave enough to marry the woman he knew that he loved, and nasty enough to rather publicly carry the torch for Camilla even while married to Diana.
Kate was a commoner but a Brit who comes from a very wealthy family, and she took her time before committing to becoming a royal. Wills has always been The Heir, and Harry "the spare." Paths long pre-determined. The British tabloid press is quite awful, and they stoked the bigotry among the populace, just as has happened here with the white supremacist crowd. Interracial marriage is hard, particularly in the setting of BRF.
I admit - I've consulted friends and colleagues on what to expect with my grandchildren, given that their father is very dark while their mother is white but olive-complected. Simple answer - they are beautiful. Many in the UK may not feel that way about fair-skinned, ginger-haired Archie.
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Post by slb2 on Mar 20, 2021 11:42:47 GMT -5
Not my best side, but I find the Royal Family entertaining. I don't know how they might archive themselves into history, but that's probably something that should happen. Or they should revamp themselves into charitable lives without all that glitz. If I were a Brit, I'm not sure I'd have the stomach to take the Royal Family's expenses as something legitimate. Maybe I'm missing the incredible, self-sacrificial work they do with only the recompense of knowing they've done good as a reward.
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Post by slb2 on Mar 20, 2021 11:45:19 GMT -5
I also think if people watched The Crown as biographical rather than historical FICTION, they've made a mistake. I watched The Crown a month ago. Enjoyed it, but recognized that it wasn't and isn't factual storytelling.
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Post by liriodendron on Mar 20, 2021 13:06:57 GMT -5
I'm wondering if an actress may have thought she'd already dealt with being in the spotlight and didn't understand that being in the royal family was different than being a "celebrity" (putting that in quotes because, honestly, I had not heard of her before she started dating Harry, so I'm thinking that her level of "celebrity" may have been limited).
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Post by doctork on Mar 20, 2021 17:49:58 GMT -5
I haven't seen "The Crown," and I'd never heard of Meghan Markle either before she became linked with Prince Harry. I've seen others comment that she was a "D list" actress, though I guess her show went on for 8 years since news stories said she had lived in Canada for 8 years of filming in Toronto, so it must have been something of a success.
Meghan Markle is certainly no Grace Kelly. American television stars like Markle don't have nearly the celebrity status of internationally known film stars like Kelly , so there is really no equivalence between TV stars and British royalty. My impression is that Royals really do believe they are better people than commoners, thus deserving of all the perks and honors they receive, and it appears that most UK and Commonwealth citizens accept that.
There have been numerous stories about the tourism money (many billions) brought into the UK because of foreign interest in the Royals, so the Royal Family may be a net financial plus.
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Post by Jane on Mar 21, 2021 9:28:09 GMT -5
Someone posted on Facebook: "Everything I know about the Royal Family, I have learned against my will." I always thought the monarchy was arcane and useless but a bonding entity for Great Britain. I felt sorry for Diana and sad when she died (she was obviously a very troubled woman), but I didn't watch the Oprah interview and am not that interested in the whole family.
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Post by doctork on Mar 21, 2021 17:43:12 GMT -5
Being an anthropologist by my original training, I think the Royal Family is rather interesting. Just another foreign tribe, not well understood.
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Post by joew on Mar 22, 2021 14:25:52 GMT -5
Not only is Meghan no Grace Kelly, but the Moneguasque Princely family isn't quite the House of Windsor. Indeed, I think they got more fame by Prince Rainier's marrying her than she did by marring him. Be that as it may, it was a different era, when the press generally were more respectful. But she was also from an upper-class background, which no doubt made her more comfortable in the princely surroundings.
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Post by slb2 on Mar 23, 2021 0:38:14 GMT -5
I'm not a royalty watcher, but I love Masterpiece and bbc productions. I decided to watch the Oprah interview and found it quite entertaining thinking about how it would be received in the UK.
But in a more sober light, and I wasn't drinking when I watched it, it's not a very edifying way to entertain myself, that is, royalty watching and enjoying the drama created by the monarchy of Britain.
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