Social Logic—There are others out there...

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[gailkate]

Wow, rog, I had to stop in the middle. I'll go back to it - very provocative - but this is a major investment of time. What's the original source?

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This is the Official Online (Youtube) Release of "Zeitgeist: Moving Forward" by Peter Joseph. [30 subtitles ADDED!] On Jan. 15th, 2011, "Zeitgeist: Moving Forward" was released theatrically to sold out crowds in 60 countries; 31 languages; 295 cities and 341 Venues.

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Aside from the disparity in income, one of the problems, or obstacles, to social advancement in the world is the inability of a majority of the people to be broadly educated; or a minority of benevolent people to be granted power.

Science rates the intelligence of mammals according to their brain to body mass ratio. Therefore the Dolphin is the most intelligent mammal on Earth. The Dolphin though has neither a trigger finger nor an opposing thumb and therefore no capacity for either production or destruction. In light of the evidence for evolution does this disqualify the Dolphin from, or is it evidence for the position of most intelligent mammal?

[TheDude]

"Science rates the intelligence of mammals according to their brain to body mass ratio. Therefore the Dolphin is the most intelligent mammal on Earth."

Is this a failure of Science to accurately describe perceived reality due to a bias toward anthropormophic intelligence measure systems? Or is it simply a failure of Dolphins to live up to Scientific Expectiations and Standards? (Sort of like that "Shroedinger's [spelling optional] Cat" Test Deal.)

"The Dolphin though has neither a trigger finger nor an opposing thumb and therefore no capacity for either production or destruction. In light of the evidence for evolution does this disqualify the Dolphin from, or is it evidence for the position of most intelligent mammal?"

(Repeat the previous question, except substitute "Sociologists" or "Philosophers" for "Scientists")

It has been my observation--over nearly six decades of experience in dealing with people (rather than dolphins or statistics)--that truly Benevolent people don't often "seek power" . . .

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Is this a failure of Science to accurately describe perceived reality due to a bias toward anthropormophic intelligence measure systems? Or is it simply a failure of Dolphins to live up to Scientific Expectiations and Standards? (Sort of like that "Shroedinger's [spelling optional] Cat" Test Deal.)

I am no quantum theorist Dude but I have a hard time classifying this as a quantum paradox. I see it more as a matter of social necessity and physical makeup. The existence of consciousness is pretty well documented in Dolphins, as well as other water dwelling species. Pre planning, group cooperation, empathy, love and friendship, self preservation. The fact that they do not create or destroy raises the question as to which species, human or dolphin will persist the longest.

Human philosophers have touched on the quantum theory of creation by consciousness (enlightenment) throughout history but our articulated limbs serve our vanity so well that we reject the motivation for that kind of development.