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Post by edsfam on Jan 22, 2007 14:24:28 GMT -5
Of all the wisdom imparted through Shakespeare's pen, the best is in "Henry VI" ... "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers". - (Act IV, Scene II). _E_ Would you care to share the context of this quote with the group, Ed, or shall I? As you like it. _E_
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Post by scotbrit on Jan 22, 2007 14:59:24 GMT -5
Much ado about nothing.
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Post by mike on Jan 22, 2007 15:26:49 GMT -5
Shakespeare is cool, but I want a President who is intimately familiar with the Rogers & Hammerstein musicals.
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Post by doctork on Jan 22, 2007 17:54:34 GMT -5
Perhaps this thread should be titled "Not for the feint of heart."
And Mike - which of the musicals? I have often wished my life were a musical.
Now I think I'll go look up Henry VI, unless Dinah beats me to it. Or j*
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Post by gailkate on Jan 23, 2007 0:12:20 GMT -5
"...kill all the lawyers" is hostile even for Eric. If anyone is bothering to monitor as Trusty requested, I think this is an example of a personal attack thet needs to be dealt with. Julia my Star, your friends will form a circle around you, lawyers in spirit. We got your back.
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Post by mike on Jan 23, 2007 3:30:20 GMT -5
Just who does that guy think he is? Quoting Shakespeare! Kill the lawyers! What a nerve he has.
Take comfort, Lady Gailkate, for I, Saint Mike, shall trample the dastardly Edsfam into the foulest part of the cow pasture; he no more shall see nor insult your Julia of Star!
Before the next sunrise, no, before the next tear drop falls, no, before the next yellow taxi drives by, I will have vanquished the mean Mr. Edsfam.
I will restore Julia of Star to her rightful place amongst the other bright stars, and the Prairie Chatter will once again be the paradise it was before Ed turn'd our heaven into hell!
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Post by mike on Jan 23, 2007 4:06:19 GMT -5
And Mike - which of the musicals? I have often wished my life were a musical. Now to quote Shakespeare myself: "If music be the food of love, play on; Give me excess of it, that, surfeiting, The appetite may sicken, and so die." My life is a musical; I burst out in song at the most unexpected times. I'm partial to -- My Fair Lady, Paint Your Wagon, Camelot, Hello Dolly, Mame, Cabaret, West Side Story, Flower Drum Song, The King And I, etc, etc, etc...
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Post by juliastar on Jan 23, 2007 6:17:41 GMT -5
Just who does that guy think he is? Quoting Shakespeare! Kill the lawyers! What a nerve he has. Take comfort, Lady Gailkate, for I, Saint Mike, shall trample the dastardly Edsfam into the foulest part of the cow pasture; he no more shall see nor insult your Julia of Star! Before the next sunrise, no, before the next tear drop falls, no, before the next yellow taxi drives by, I will have vanquished the mean Mr. Edsfam. I will restore Julia of Star to her rightful place amongst the other bright stars, and the Prairie Chatter will once again be the paradise it was before Ed turn'd our heaven into hell! Lady Gailkate and Saint Mike. I like that. Thanks for checking out my first chapter and your kind comments. The yellow taxi drive by? LOL, but let's not make a mountain out of a mole hill. Anyone who quotes some Shakespeare can't be all bad. I would like to know that he knows who the speaker was and what the bum had in mind and why it might be helpful for a power grab to have the lawyers out of the way, that's all. There are, admittedly, many stripes, but as a profession we tend to be vital to the rule of law.
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Post by ptcaffey on Jan 23, 2007 7:08:56 GMT -5
Scene: Texas. A treeless wood.
King George: Come knave! Your counsel please. Should I read Hamlet and Macbeth?
Fool: Which loggerhead has proffered such advice, sir?
King George: Laura, the Queen.
Fool: The Queen is wise.
King George: She tells me so.
Fool: Prick up your ears when she instructs and thou shall surely earn a scratch between them.
King George: I am rubbed raw.
Fool: And yet...
King George: Go on.
Fool: May I speak plainly?
King George: Plainly if you do not you will be whipped.
Fool: The Queen is wise, yes, in all ways but one.
King George: Enumerate her insufficiency if it pleases you.
Fool: It pains me, sire.
King George: It may yet--true. We'll see. Say your piece.
Fool: The Queen chooses well but who hath chosen the Queen?
King George: I, the King.
Fool: Indeed, sir! And in so doing, hath not the King evinced a higher intellect?
King George: Evinced?
Fool: To have displayed outward evidence of.
King George: Of what?
Fool: That which is inward.
(pause)
King George: What hath the King done again?
Fool (slowly): Married the Queen. He hath done it once, but that's enough.
King George: Oh, would that this were true of reading books!
Fool: We are on the same page at last. Hold my hand lest thy footing be lost to the binding.
King George: Perhaps thou shouldst hold my foot.
Fool (claps): The King hath tendered a joke.
King George: You are kind, but I was not born a Fool.
Fool: Such modesty! But look on all you have achieved!
King George: I am a simple warrior.
Fool: 'Tis true, 'tis true. If only this guaranteed simple wars.
King George: Wars are easy. I put men into battle the way other men place bookmarks into books.
Fool: And neither are ever finished because of it.
King George: Enough of such nonsense, you wagtail! Do I read Hamlet, or not? That is the question.
Fool: I wouldn't suffer it.
King George: The Queen speaks highly of it.
Fool: The King hath a higher power.
King George: I confess my heart congeals around this inclination, to avoid the multitudes of letters arranged like dead, black ants in row after poisonous row.
Fool: The horror of it.
King George: Yes.
Fool: Then it's set.
King George: But the Queen. She checks upon my progress as if I were a scribbling schoolboy kept after hours. Have you words for her?
Fool: Evince--show--no outward sign of doubt. Say: "Who buys a 400 year-old fiction? I want my drama as I like my wine: Fresh."
King George: And if this fails to sate her?
Fool: Declaim, with confidence, your aesthetics: "All I ask of a good play is that it produce a quantifiable benefit."
King George: Like the number of enemy dead after a siege.
Fool: Thou hast outdone thyself!
King George: And I shall continue to outdo myself until I am, myself, undone.
Fool: That should finish her.
King George: I will say now what I've always felt; that Readers of plays are such Elitists! They bray of books nonstop and would, if Heaven let them, extend this queer devotion to every home. No soul would be safe from the Readers' reach, and as each shadow fell, Elitism would spread.
Fool: Until it became Universal.
King George: Yes, 'til then. And then what of kings?
Fool: And fools?
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Post by edsfam on Jan 23, 2007 7:28:11 GMT -5
Scene: Texas. A treeless wood. King George: Come knave! Your counsel please. Should I read Hamlet and Macbeth? ... and so on and so on. Blah, Blah, Blah. Wait a minute. " A treeless wood." Isn't that a field? Or a pasture at the very least? And where are the cars? Would not make it today without a chase scene ... and a musical interlude ... and maybe a DWC. _E_
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Post by gailkate on Jan 23, 2007 9:51:57 GMT -5
"What hath the King done again?"[
The King hath outdone himself. All hail PT!
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Post by doctork on Jan 23, 2007 14:22:46 GMT -5
I am not an English major (new acronym - IAMAEM) but PT's meter looks quite good to me. Can't tell him from the Bard himself!
I did look up Henry VI (Part 2) - didn't have it memorized, since IANAEM. Of course j* is correct, the context was that if one wished to illegally dethrone the ruler, elimination of the lawyers was an important first step. (This story sounds familiar, kind of like Current Events - or maybe that is co-opting, silencing or "replacing" the lawyers.)
Or, one could consider it yet another lawyer joke. I find it impressive that lawyer jokes were popular even 400 years ago, and persist to this day. We tend to joke about those things essential to our lives - sex, marriage, government, human nature, and yes, lawyers.
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Post by doctork on Jan 23, 2007 14:25:50 GMT -5
And though I may start dancing in front of the picture window, I can't say I break out into spontaneous song. But maybe I'll try that.
But if my life were a musical I think I'd pick "South Pacific" or "Oklahoma." Maybe "Guys and Dolls."
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Post by scotbrit on Jan 23, 2007 15:05:02 GMT -5
An exalt for PTC!
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Post by booklady on Jan 23, 2007 16:34:30 GMT -5
PT, you are brilliant. Fantastically humorous. What hath the king done again? Hahahahahaha!
(psst.......doctork.......Damn Yankees!)
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Post by juliastar on Jan 23, 2007 19:31:12 GMT -5
Yes, it is one thing to quote Shakespeare and quite another to write it.
My favorite line was: "And I shall continue to outdo myself until I am, myself, undone."
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Post by joew on Jan 23, 2007 23:33:33 GMT -5
… I did look up Henry VI (Part 2) - didn't have it memorized, since IANAEM. Of course j* is correct, the context was that if one wished to illegally dethrone the ruler, elimination of the lawyers was an important first step. (This story sounds familiar, kind of like Current Events…) How true that is, and ironic!
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Post by ptcaffey on Jan 24, 2007 1:41:27 GMT -5
Shakespeare can be fun after all. The proof is in the puddn' head, as they say. ;-)
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Post by mike on Jan 26, 2007 5:55:50 GMT -5
I always thought that the poof was in the puddn' head... but what do I know?
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