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Post by gailkate on Jul 18, 2016 9:32:41 GMT -5
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Post by doctork on Jul 18, 2016 15:44:43 GMT -5
Blowin in the wind.
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Post by gailkate on Jul 18, 2016 19:42:33 GMT -5
"Knockin on Heaven's Door"
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Post by joew on Jul 21, 2016 15:18:03 GMT -5
Blowin' in the Wind.
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Post by booklady on May 10, 2021 10:13:23 GMT -5
How did I miss this? Tangled Up in Blue. Or Mississippi. Or Tryin' to Get to Heaven Before They Close the Door. I really should make an effort to identify with some of his happier songs. Gosh, has he written any happy songs?  |
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Post by doctork on May 10, 2021 18:57:31 GMT -5
When remembering his lyrics, it's no mystery why Bob Dylan won the Nobel Prize for Literature. While not exactly "happy," I'd say these songs are at least "optimistic": Lay Lady Lay I Shall Be Released - Though it's considered The Band's song, "I Shall Be Released" was written by Bob Dylan, and he first recorded it with The Band, who were is back-up band at the time. It was released on one of Dylan's Bootleg albums. Every Grain of Sand - This one's off his "Shot of Love" album done during his born-again Christian years, and reminds me of
the hymn "His Eye Is On the Sparrow" and also William Blake (To see a world in a grain of sand, And a heaven in a wild flower, Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, And eternity in an hour.)
One time, I saw Dylan in Denver in the late 1970's, his Christian years when he was no longer popular with fans from the '60's. The concert was in a local bar/small music venue with may 50 or 60 people in the audience. I couldn't believe I was seeing Dylan from 10 - 15 feet away! The first time I saw him live was at the Isle of Wight Festival in 1969 - his first live performance since his motorcycle accident in 1966. Isle of Wight was huge and it was a peak experience for me (18 years old, living/working in Europe, going to concerts, what else could you want at age 18?) - Dylan was the biggest draw, but The Who, the Moody Blues, Joe Cocker and many other top notch performers were there. |
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Post by doctork on May 10, 2021 19:13:54 GMT -5
PS - Bob Dylan will be 80 years old in 2 weeks! Doesn't seem possible.
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Post by booklady on May 11, 2021 7:25:50 GMT -5
I went to Hibbing, Minnesota for Dylan Days in May of 2007. It was Bob's 66th birthday while I was there. They had a cake for him at the Hibbing library (where downstairs there is a sort-of Bob Museum, which includes the original window from his bedroom. Of course, I grasped the handle.  ) During my stay there I took the bus tour all around Hibbing, and one stop was the house he grew up in. The owner opened it up every year during Dylan Days to this tour, so we were allowed to go inside and walk around the rooms on the first floor. It was quite special to be able to do that. The house is just a small, modest 2 bedroom on a nice street down a few blocks from the high school (an amazing work of art in itself). A few miles away is his HS girlfriend Echo's little house, which is now across the street from a Walmart. On Sunday morning there was a "spiritual" gathering over breakfast at Zimmy's, a local restaurant with lots of Bob memorabilia on the walls, and as I was sitting alone, Bob's high school English teacher invited me to eat breakfast with him and his wife. It was fabulous. They were such nice people. After I left Hibbing and before I came home, I had a meal with Gail, and Susan and her husband in Minneapolis. I wish this site would allow me to upload a couple of photos of this time, including one of Gail, Susan, and me, but it is telling me they are too large. It remains one of the most wonderful trips I have ever taken. I believe the town has stopped holding Dylan Days, but for a while they were held every year for the four days or so around his birthday on May 24. |
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Post by booklady on May 11, 2021 7:30:26 GMT -5
When remembering his lyrics, it's no mystery why Bob Dylan won the Nobel Prize for Literature. While not exactly "happy," I'd say these songs are at least "optimistic": Lay Lady Lay I Shall Be Released - Though it's considered The Band's song, "I Shall Be Released" was written by Bob Dylan, and he first recorded it with The Band, who were is back-up band at the time. It was released on one of Dylan's Bootleg albums. Every Grain of Sand - This one's off his "Shot of Love" album done during his born-again Christian years, and reminds me of
the hymn "His Eye Is On the Sparrow" and also William Blake (To see a world in a grain of sand, And a heaven in a wild flower, Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, And eternity in an hour.)
One time, I saw Dylan in Denver in the late 1970's, his Christian years when he was no longer popular with fans from the '60's. The concert was in a local bar/small music venue with may 50 or 60 people in the audience. I couldn't believe I was seeing Dylan from 10 - 15 feet away! The first time I saw him live was at the Isle of Wight Festival in 1969 - his first live performance since his motorcycle accident in 1966. Isle of Wight was huge and it was a peak experience for me (18 years old, living/working in Europe, going to concerts, what else could you want at age 18?) - Dylan was the biggest draw, but The Who, the Moody Blues, Joe Cocker and many other top notch performers were there. Every Grain of Sand -- I do love that song. I think the Isle of Wight concert was held at the same time as Woodstock, wasn't it? How great that you were able to attend! I saw Bob only once, in New Hampshire in 2007 or 2008. I remember wishing he had played more on guitar than he did, but he switched fairly soon to keyboard. |
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Post by doctork on May 11, 2021 19:04:27 GMT -5
Isle of Wight was two weeks after Woodstock, August 30 and 31, 1969 and we were all aware that we had to live up to Woodstock's reputation. Nowadays when people talk about Woodstock, especially if they say there were there and ask if I was there, I just say "No, I was in Europe that year so I went to Isle of Wight"! (I had dropped out of high school and ran away to Europe to live with my aunt and uncle in Germany.)
I remember your posts about Dylan Days. Wasn't it the case that you had kind of missed out on Dylan back in the '60's and then "discovered" him later? That is really something to tour his house and then have breakfast with his high school English teacher. Was he a good writer/poet way back then?
If you have trouble posting your photos here because they are too large, you can probably right-click on the picture, choose the option to resize, and then make it small enough to load. I've had to shrink my photos to the smallest size ("thumbnail") to get them to load. It's usually pictures my daughter takes of the grand-daughters and they are lovely but big.
With some photos in some apps, the "resize" option will ask you to enter some numbers. I don't really understand the numbers (are they pixels?) but sometimes I can hover over the photos, get the technical details on the photo size (usually something like 1200 X 1600), and then enter some lower numbers (~1000 X 1200?) and it will load.
If posting multiple photos, some of them will appear sideways in the post, but if you click on it, it's right side up. I don't understand that, or the numbers. Oh well.
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Post by booklady on May 12, 2021 7:32:15 GMT -5
Isle of Wight was two weeks after Woodstock, August 30 and 31, 1969 and we were all aware that we had to live up to Woodstock's reputation. Nowadays when people talk about Woodstock, especially if they say there were there and ask if I was there, I just say "No, I was in Europe that year so I went to Isle of Wight"! (I had dropped out of high school and ran away to Europe to live with my aunt and uncle in Germany.) I remember your posts about Dylan Days. Wasn't it the case that you had kind of missed out on Dylan back in the '60's and then "discovered" him later? That is really something to tour his house and then have breakfast with his high school English teacher. Was he a good writer/poet way back then? If you have trouble posting your photos here because they are too large, you can probably right-click on the picture, choose the option to resize, and then make it small enough to load. I've had to shrink my photos to the smallest size ("thumbnail") to get them to load. It's usually pictures my daughter takes of the grand-daughters and they are lovely but big. With some photos in some apps, the "resize" option will ask you to enter some numbers. I don't really understand the numbers (are they pixels?) but sometimes I can hover over the photos, get the technical details on the photo size (usually something like 1200 X 1600), and then enter some lower numbers (~1000 X 1200?) and it will load. If posting multiple photos, some of them will appear sideways in the post, but if you click on it, it's right side up. I don't understand that, or the numbers. Oh well. Absolutely! I missed out on Dylan until about 2006, when I was reading the sports section of the Boston Globe and saw that he is a baseball fan and at that time was about to play a series of concerts in minor league baseball parks. Well, I knew of Dylan, of course, everyone knows "of" Bob Dylan. But I realized I didn't know anything about him as a person, whether he had any children or even where he grew up! Seems amazing to me now. |
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Post by doctork on May 20, 2021 13:50:47 GMT -5
Since Bob Dylan's 80th birthday is Monday, there will be a lot of celebration in Musicland. I am on the mailing list for WFUV, the NPR station out of Fordham University in NYC, and noted that on Monday they will be playing "80 for 80" - 80 favorite Dylan songs, as selected by their listeners, played all day long. I noticed they also have a recording available on the website of Lucinda Williams interviewing Bob about his "Highway 61" album. wfuv.org/content/bob-dylan-80-80-countdown-mondayOne of the coolest things about the internet is that you can listen to any radio station anywhere, anytime! And during the Covid shutdown such entertainment has been a tremendous relief - for us and the performers. |
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Post by slb2 on May 25, 2021 2:42:47 GMT -5
I couldn't get the quiz to work, but I'd say Like a Rolling Stone. That is the name of that song, isn't it? |
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Post by booklady on May 25, 2021 7:01:41 GMT -5
Someone posted this video on another board I visit. I don't remember ever hearing the song before -- the blurb attached to the Youtube says it was recorded in 1970 but never released. I like the scenes chosen to accompany this song.
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Post by booklady on May 25, 2021 7:05:36 GMT -5
I couldn't get the quiz to work, but I'd say Like a Rolling Stone. That is the name of that song, isn't it? Yes, ma'am. |
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Post by doctork on May 25, 2021 18:00:16 GMT -5
"Pretty Saro" is an old English ballad, maybe one of the Child Ballads? I never knew Bob recorded it, but I've heard numerous others sing it, mostly "old folkies." Pete Seeger, Judy Collins, Jean Ritchie, maybe Ray Hicks and other people that live and play music in Appalachia.
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Post by slb2 on May 26, 2021 1:43:50 GMT -5
I couldn't get the quiz to work, but I'd say Like a Rolling Stone. That is the name of that song, isn't it? Yes, ma'am. Wow. I love that song. I sang it to Jennifer when she was born in part because I couldn't think of any lullabies, but also, it felt appropriate as I was soon going to part from her and she'd live in foster care until she was placed in an adoptive home. I wrote a speech about that and sang a couple lines of the song. Won at club level, area level, but not at division level. The person who did win against me went all the way to take the international speech contest so I guess I had stiff competition. |
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Post by booklady on May 26, 2021 7:49:01 GMT -5
I've always been fascinated by the stories of its ("Like a Rolling Stone") recording, especially Al Kooper's role on the organ. This gives you an idea of how all the players interacted that day, not specifically Kooper: www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4585682FTA: No matter how timeless "Like a Rolling Stone" might turn out to be, what happened over the two days of recording sessions makes it clear that had circumstances been even slightly different -- different people present, a different mood in the studio, different weather in the streets outside, a different headline in the morning paper -- the song might never have entered time at all, or interrupted it. "I told all the musicians, you quit playing, you're gone," Bob Johnston says of the sessions that followed. "You quit playing, you're never going to hear that song again. Dylan would start a song -- they'd be a third of the way through, and someone says, Waal, I didn't git that. The bass stops, or the piano player. Dylan would forget about that song and you'd never hear it again." "Like a Rolling Stone" is a triumph of craft, inspiration, will, and intent; regardless of all those things, it was also an accident. Listening now, you hear most of all how much the song resists the musicians and the singer. Except on a single take, when they went past the song and made their performance into an event that down the years would always begin again from its first bar, they are so far from the song and from each other it's easy enough to imagine Bob Dylan giving up on the song, no doubt taking phrases here and there and putting them into another song somewhere down the line but never bothering with that thing called "Like a Rolling Stone" again. Following the sessions as they happened, it can in moments be easier to imagine that than to believe that the record was actually made -- that, circling around the song like hunters surrounding an animal that has escaped them a dozen times, they caught it. That is what makes an event, after all: it can only happen once. Once it has happened, it will seem inevitable. But all the good reasons in the world can't make it happen. |
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Post by booklady on May 26, 2021 7:59:57 GMT -5
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Post by jspnrvr on May 29, 2021 10:56:20 GMT -5
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Post by booklady on May 29, 2021 11:13:39 GMT -5
Yikes. I'll take Dylan's version.  |
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Post by slb2 on May 29, 2021 19:50:52 GMT -5
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Post by slb2 on May 29, 2021 19:55:20 GMT -5
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Post by gailkate on May 30, 2021 23:18:48 GMT -5
What fun that in this comparison, Dylan - the guy with a voice like a rusted outhouse door - wins hands down. I'll have to look up the lyrics, as I can't understand them all. I am hoping Saro is frustrated with her loveless life, the little gold-digger.
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Post by gailkate on May 30, 2021 23:25:53 GMT -5
Did the Eagles get inspiration from Saro?
City girls just seem to find out early
How to open doors with just a smile
A rich old man and she won't have to worry
She'll dress up all in lace go in style
Late at night a big old house gets lonely
I guess every form of refuge has its price
And it breaks her heart to think her love is only
Given to a man with hands as cold as ice
So she tells him she must go out for the evening
To comfort an old friend who's feelin' down
But he knows where she's goin' as she's leavin'
She is headed for the cheatin' side of town
You can't hide your lyin' eyes
And your smile is a thin disguise
I thought by now you'd realize
There ain't no way to hide your lyin' eyes
On the other side of town a boy is waiting
With fiery eyes and dreams no one could steal
She drives on through the night anticipating
'Cause he makes her feel the way she used to feel
She rushes to his arms they fall together
She whispers it's only for a while
She swears that soon she'll be comin' back forever
She goes away and leaves him with a smile
You can't hide your lyin' eyes
And your smile is a thin disguise
I thought by now you'd realize
There ain't no way to hide your lyin' eyes
She gets up and pours herself a strong one
And stares out at the stars up in the sky
Another night it's gonna be a long one
She draws the shade and hangs her head to cry
She wonders how it ever got this crazy
She thinks about a boy she knew in school
(Ooh...) Did she get tired or did she just get lazy?
(Ooh...) She's so far gone she feels just like a fool
My oh my you sure know how to arrange things
(Aaah...) You set it up so well so carefully
Ain't it funny (aaah...) how your new life didn't change things?
You're still the same old girl you used to be
You can't hide your lyin' eyes
And your smile is a thin disguise
I thought by now you'd realize
There ain't no way to hide your lyin' eyes
There ain't no way to hide your lyin' eyes
Honey you can't hide your lyin' eyes
Source: Musixmatch
Songwriters: Don Henley / Glenn Frey
Lyin' Eyes lyrics © Cass County Music, Red Cloud Music
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Post by booklady on May 31, 2021 8:35:36 GMT -5
There's a story behind that one, too, Gail. I think it's kinda sad.
From thesocietyofrock.com
Written In Two Nights
Don Henley and Glenn Frey got the title and idea for the song while they were hanging out one night at their favorite Los Angeles restaurant/bar Dan Tana’s. They were still struggling musicians at the time and they thought about all those beautiful women who were cheating on their husbands. And so while at the watering hole, they saw a stunning young lady with a fat and much older wealthy man. They laughed and Frey said, “Look at her, she can’t even hide those lyin eyes!”
And that was the light bulb moment for them. They suddenly scrambled for napkins to write down the lyrics. Henley claimed that Frey wrote most of the song but that he contributed the verses and the music.
Frey revealed that “…the story had always been there. I don’t want to say it wrote itself, but once we started working on it, there were no sticking points. Lyrics just kept coming out, and that’s not always the way songs get written.”
According to Henley in the History of the Eagles documentary, “It was about all these girls that would come down to Dan Tana’s looking beautiful. They’d be there from 8 O’clock until midnight having drinks with all of us rockers, then they’d go home because they were kept women.”
“Lyin’ Eyes” peaked at #2 on the US Billboard Hot 100 and it earned the band a Grammy Award for Best Pop Performance by a Group.
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Post by booklady on May 31, 2021 8:44:31 GMT -5
This is my favorite Dylan song. I just love the drums.
And I love his alternate version, too. (LOL, I don't agree with the placard, though. He's not Sinatra, but his voice furthers his lyrics, imo.)
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Post by gailkate on May 31, 2021 21:07:51 GMT -5
Henley claimed that Frey wrote most of the song but that he contributed the verses and the music.
Wish I'd known Henley.
If I weren't so old I might emulate BL and become a Dylan expert, but there's so much left to do. I like Tangled Up in Blue, but this blew me away.
www.rockarchive.com/news/2018/bob-dylan-tangled-up-in-blue
When he says this, I'm blown around the block. "It’s a song that is full of myth and mystery, but can also just be listened to and enjoyed without having to dig too deep. It’s simply a great melody."
Seriously, a great melody?
I'm even more perplexed by this from a reviewer who knows bunches more than I ever will, so how can I judge?
"In musical terms we have the tonic (I) alternating with a chord of the flattened 7th but with the tonic still in place. We are there (the tonic) but we aren’t (flattened 7th). Lyrics and music in total unity, while time is out of joint – a superb concept. When he hit on that rotating alternation he must have known he had what he wanted and needed to make the song flow."
It gets more erudite and like a Ph.D thesis as it goes on.
bob-dylan.org.uk/archives/121
OK, this top 50 pushed me to get out my CDs and buy more. But I really need a good book. What would be best? www.theguardian.com/music/2020/apr/09/bob-dylans-50-greatest-songs-ranked
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Post by doctork on Jun 2, 2021 0:50:35 GMT -5
I have a guitar, can strum a few chords, and because I still have a few ambitions when I recall how I used to play, I subscribe to Acoustic Guitar Magazine. Lots of useful information, but they they run articles like Learn 5 Ways to Play A Augmented
Remember that a major triad is built of three notes, the root, the third, and the fifth. In an augmented triad, the root and the third are the same, but the fifth is raised a half step.
Then I get lost. And can't turn off the purple either.
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Post by gailkate on Jun 2, 2021 10:10:19 GMT -5
my Dylan books are shipped and likely to show up any day. I came across a syllabus by a prof who teaches a course in Dylan and put together an annotated list that seemed daunting, but I think I chose well. It's not a lot different from choosing books on Beethoven. One is "Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen: American Song." An astute choice, I think.
Where would one place Paul Simon?
K, go up to the rainbow world, click, and play around till you get back to black. Or maybe your screen doesn't look like mine?
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